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Can You Take the Flag Out in Golf?

By Spencer Lanoue
July 24, 2025

The moment you step onto the green, you’re faced with a simple question that used to have a very different answer: should the flagstick stay in the hole or come out? Since the rules changed back in 2019, this has become one of golf’s great modern debates. This article will walk you through exactly what the rule is now, the real strategic pros and cons of leaving the pin in, and how you can decide what’s best for your game and each specific putt.

Understanding the Rule Change: The Old vs. The New

For decades, the answer to the flagstick question was automatic. If your ball, played from on the putting green, struck the unattended flagstick in the hole, you were penalized two strokes. This rule was deeply ingrained in the game, conditioning generations of golfers to always have the pin removed or attended before putting. It was a simple, no-exceptions penalty that everyone knew to avoid.

However, in an effort to simplify the Rules of Golf and speed up play, a major update went into effect in 2019. Under the new Rule 13.2a(2), this penalty was completely eliminated. The new rule states:

  • You now have the choice to putt with the flagstick left in the hole.
  • If you make a stroke from the putting green and your ball hits the flagstick, there is no penalty. The ball is to be played as it lies.

This simple change opened up a new dimension of putting strategy. Suddenly, the flagstick wasn't just a marker for the hole’s location, it became a potential tool that could help or hurt your chances of sinking a putt.

The Big Question: Should You Leave the Flagstick In?

With no risk of a penalty, the decision to leave the flagstick in or pull it out is now purely strategic. There isn't a universally "correct" answer, it often comes down to the situation and personal preference. The best players approach it by weighing the potential benefits against the risks. Let's look at both sides.

The Case for Leaving It In (The Pros)

Many amateur and professional golfers, most famously Bryson DeChambeau, have embraced putting with the pin in. Here’s why it can be a smart move:

  • It Serves as a Backstop: This is the number one reason. On a slick, downhill putt or a long lag putt where you’re prioritizing distance control, a ball hit a little too firmly can strike the pin and drop in or at least stop much closer to the hole than it would have otherwise. It acts as a safety net, potentially turning a disastrous four-putt into a simple tap-in.
  • It Enhances Target Focus: For some players, the visual of a wide-open hole can feel ambiguous. The flagstick provides a sharp, thin, and very specific target to focus on. This can help quiet the mind, improve alignment, and encourage a more single-minded focus on the line. It turns a general target into a precise point.
  • It Can Speed Up an-demand: In a friendly game, when playing solo, or when your partners are far from the green, leaving the pin in is simply more efficient. There’s no need to wait for someone to walk over and tend the flag. This keeps the rhythm of the round flowing, which is what the rules committee was aiming for.
  • The Chance of a "Good Bounce": While hard to quantify a ball that might have lipped out on the high side can sometimes catch the inside of the flagstick and dive into the hole. It's not something you can plan for, but when it happens, it feels like a stolen birdie and provides a huge mental boost.

The Case for Taking It Out (The Cons)

Despite the potential advantages, the majority of tour professionals still have the flagstick removed for most of their putts, especially from close range. Here are the main reasons why taking it out is often the preferred choice:

  • The Risk of a Bad Bounce: This is the biggest drawback. The flagstick can be a cruel opponent. A perfectly rolled putt that strikes the stick dead-center can easily bounce straight back or ricochet sideways out of the hole. The material and thickness of the pin can make this a bigger risk. a modern fiberglass pin might "pop" the ball out more than an older, thinner metal one. You introduce an element of luck that you don't have with an open cup.
  • A Smaller Target Area: An open golf hole is 4.25 inches in diameter. When you leave the flagstick in (which is about 0.5 inches in diameter), you reduce the available space for the ball to enter. For a putt coming in from the side with dying speed, that stick in the middle can be enough of an obstruction to keep the ball from falling. Taking it out gives you the full, unimpeded diameter of the hole to work with.
  • The Mental Block: Tradition is powerful in golf. Many players who learned the game under the old rule just can't shake the feeling that putting with the pin in is "wrong." Seeing it there can create visual clutter and a whisper of doubt in the back of your mind. A confident putting stroke requires full commitment, and for some, that's only possible when looking at an open hole.
  • Green and Cup Integrity: This is more of an etiquette point. Constantly having golf balls jam into the base of the flagstick can chip away at the edges of the cup over time. A nice, clean edge is important for a true roll. By carefully removing the pin, you help preserve the quality of the putting surface for all the groups that come after you.

How to Decide: Crafting Your Personal Putting Strategy

Since there are compelling arguments for both sides, the right choice for you will change from putt to putt. Building a consistent strategy involves evaluating the shot in front of you and knowing your own tendencies as a player.

Consider the Putt Itself

Don't make your decision on the tee box. Wait until you're on the green and can analyze the situation:

  • Long Putts (Over 30 feet): This is a prime time to leave the pin in. From this distance, your main goal is lag putting - getting the ball into a small circle around the hole. The flagstick serves as an excellent visual guide for distance and acts as that valuable backstop if you get a little too aggressive.
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  • Short Putts (Inside 10-15 feet): On shorter putts, the risk of a bad bounce often outweighs the benefits. Most players prefer to have the pin out here to give themselves the entire space of the hole to use. Confidence is high from this range, and the backstop isn’t as necessary.
  • Downhill, Speedy Putts: This is perhaps the best time to leave the flagstick in, regardless of distance. When you know the ball is going to be rolling quickly, the pin is your best friend preventing it from racing 8 feet past the hole. It encourages a more confident stroke because you have that safety measure.
  • Breaking Putts: Think about where your ball is going to enter the hole. If you have a big right-to-left break and you play it to die into the left side of the cup (the “pro side”), the pin could get in the way. However, if you play it more firmly to a spot straight up the hill, the pin can help slow the ball down and guide it in.

Think About Your Game and Psychology

The best strategy also fits your personal style.

  • Are you an aggressive or a delicate putter? If your putting style involves hitting the ball firmly toward the back of the cup, you will likely benefit more from the backstop effect. If your goal is to have the ball just "die" at the front lip of the hole, the pin is more likely to be an obstruction.
  • Find out what gives you confidence. The mental part of putting is everything. Go to a practice green. Hit 20 putts from 20 feet with the flag in. Then hit another 20 with it out. Don't just count the putts made - pay attention to how you feel. Which one makes it easier for you to see the line and feel confident in your stroke? Your own experience is your best guide.
  • Notice the equipment. Is the flagstick leaning because of the wind? A tilted pin can dramatically change how the ball reacts. As mentioned before, a thicker fiberglass pin presents a different kind of obstacle than a thin metal one. Pay attention to the conditions.

Flagstick Etiquette: Playing Well with Others

Because the choice is now personal, communication with your playing partners is important. You want to make sure your choice doesn't interfere with their process or vice versa.

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  • Always ask first. Before you or your playing partner putts, it’s good practice to ask, "Do you want the pin in or out?" It’s a simple courtesy that keeps everyone on the same page.
  • The player farthest away makes the call. Golf etiquette dictates that the person whose turn it is to play gets to decide whether the pin stays or goes for their shot.
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Final Thoughts

The 2019 rules change freed golfers to make a new strategic choice on the putting green. The single right answer to the question of leaving the pin in or out is gone, replaced by a more nuanced decision. The correct answer will depend on the specific putt, your own style, and ultimately, whatever approach gives you the most confidence over the ball.

Understanding the rules and building a strategy for every part of your game is what separates a good shot from great rounds. That’s where we designed to help. When you're standing over a tricky downhill putt, you can get instant advice on whether the "pin in" strategy is your best bet. You can ask us anything from simple rule clarifications to complex course management questions, giving you an expert second opinion to help you play with more confidence and make smarter decisions on the course.

Spencer has been playing golf since he was a kid and has spent a lifetime chasing improvement. With over a decade of experience building successful tech products, he combined his love for golf and startups to create Caddie AI - the world's best AI golf app. Giving everyone an expert level coach in your pocket, available 24/7. His mission is simple: make world-class golf advice accessible to everyone, anytime.

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